Pot opponents regroup following state's legalization vote

SEATTLE (AP) - Kevin Sabet, a former White House drug policy adviser and an outspoken opponent of legalizing marijuana, watched with dismay last fall as voters in Washington and Colorado did just that.
But the next day he got a call from former Democratic U.S. Rep. Patrick Kennedy, who has struggled with alcohol and drug addiction. The son of late Sen. Ted Kennedy was worried that the votes sent the wrong message about marijuana.
"The level of his concern impressed me," Sabet recalled. "He said, 'We have to do something that is not falling into this false dichotomy of prohibition versus legalization.'"
So began the regrouping of the anti-pot lobby, an effort which on Thursday launches a new organization, Project SAM, for "smart approaches to marijuana." Kennedy is the chairman, and other board members include Sabet and David Frum, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush.
"Our country is about to go down the wrong road, in the opposite direction of sound mental health policy," Kennedy said. "It's just shocking as a public health issue that we seem to be looking the other way as this legalization of marijuana becomes really glamorous."
The idea is to halt the legalization movement by arguing the U.S. can ease the ills of prohibition - such as the racial disparities in arrest rates and the lifelong stigma that can come with a pot conviction - without legalizing the drug. Kennedy called marijuana a dangerous drug that lowers IQ and triggers psychosis in those genetically predisposed toward it; critics charged him with distorting the scientific evidence by cherry-picking studies that relate only to a tiny fraction of pot users.
"It's almost 'Reefer Madness'-type stuff about marijuana he's saying," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance. "There's something remarkable about Patrick Kennedy deciding to go after users of a drug that is by almost all accounts less dangerous than the drugs he struggled with. Where Patrick Kennedy could have made a really important contribution is by saying that we need a responsible public health model for dealing with legal marijuana."
Nadelmann described Project SAM as a "strategic retreat" by the just-say-no crowd.
The organization hopes to raise money to oppose legalization messages around the country, shape the legalization laws taking effect in Washington and Colorado, promote alternatives to jail time for pot users and speed up scientific research on the effects of marijuana.
Sharon Levy, chairwoman of the American Academy of Pediatrics committee on substance abuse, said she joined the Project SAM board because "we're losing the public health battle" and policy is being made by legalization advocates who might be misinformed about marijuana's dangers.
Kennedy served 16 years as a congressman from Rhode Island, during which he made mental health treatment and insurance coverage a legislative priority. He revealed he had struggled with depression and alcoholism, as well as addiction to cocaine and prescription painkillers.
In 2006, Kennedy crashed his Ford Mustang into a security barrier on Capitol Hill. He agreed to a plea deal on a charge of driving under the influence of prescription drugs and received a year's probation.
Low-level marijuana offenders should pay a fine, not go to prison, Kennedy said, but it's a bad idea to make pot more accessible: More people will experiment, including young people whose still-developing brains seem to be most susceptible to addiction. He said he fears the creation of a huge marijuana industry that might target teens the way the tobacco industry did.
Voters in Washington and Colorado handily passed measures on last November's ballot to legalize the possession of up to an ounce of marijuana for adults over 21 under state law, and to create a system of state-licensed marijuana growers, processors and retail stores. The measures could bring the states tens or hundreds of millions of dollars per year in new tax revenue, analysts have said.
Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and the Justice Department has not said whether it will sue to try to block the state-licensing schemes from taking effect.
Supporters of Washington's Initiative 502 raised more than $6 million. The measure was sponsored or endorsed by former top federal law enforcement officers in the state, as well as some former public health officials and a University of Washington addiction specialist.
Alison Holcomb, the drug policy director of the state's American Civil Liberties Union chapter and I-502's campaign manager, said she's as concerned as anyone else about the public-health ramifications of legal marijuana, and that's why the initiative requires new surveys of drug use among teens and earmarks money for substance abuse prevention and treatment.
And, she said, Kennedy and Sabet offer no suggestions for dealing with the dangerous black market that supplies the nation's vigorous appetite for pot.
Frum said that given the social ills caused by alcohol and tobacco use, no one should be arguing for legal marijuana.
"There are not a lot of voices saying you should smoke more tobacco, it's a cure for what ails you," Frum said. "There aren't people saying we should raise the DUI limit from 0.08 to 0.12. People who use alcohol and tobacco understand they're doing something risky. That's not the message about marijuana, and that's an unfortunate situation.
"What we should all want is to see fewer young people with criminal records and fewer young people using drugs."
But the next day he got a call from former Democratic U.S. Rep. Patrick Kennedy, who has struggled with alcohol and drug addiction. The son of late Sen. Ted Kennedy was worried that the votes sent the wrong message about marijuana.
"The level of his concern impressed me," Sabet recalled. "He said, 'We have to do something that is not falling into this false dichotomy of prohibition versus legalization.'"
So began the regrouping of the anti-pot lobby, an effort which on Thursday launches a new organization, Project SAM, for "smart approaches to marijuana." Kennedy is the chairman, and other board members include Sabet and David Frum, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush.
"Our country is about to go down the wrong road, in the opposite direction of sound mental health policy," Kennedy said. "It's just shocking as a public health issue that we seem to be looking the other way as this legalization of marijuana becomes really glamorous."
The idea is to halt the legalization movement by arguing the U.S. can ease the ills of prohibition - such as the racial disparities in arrest rates and the lifelong stigma that can come with a pot conviction - without legalizing the drug. Kennedy called marijuana a dangerous drug that lowers IQ and triggers psychosis in those genetically predisposed toward it; critics charged him with distorting the scientific evidence by cherry-picking studies that relate only to a tiny fraction of pot users.
"It's almost 'Reefer Madness'-type stuff about marijuana he's saying," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the New York-based Drug Policy Alliance. "There's something remarkable about Patrick Kennedy deciding to go after users of a drug that is by almost all accounts less dangerous than the drugs he struggled with. Where Patrick Kennedy could have made a really important contribution is by saying that we need a responsible public health model for dealing with legal marijuana."
Nadelmann described Project SAM as a "strategic retreat" by the just-say-no crowd.
The organization hopes to raise money to oppose legalization messages around the country, shape the legalization laws taking effect in Washington and Colorado, promote alternatives to jail time for pot users and speed up scientific research on the effects of marijuana.
Sharon Levy, chairwoman of the American Academy of Pediatrics committee on substance abuse, said she joined the Project SAM board because "we're losing the public health battle" and policy is being made by legalization advocates who might be misinformed about marijuana's dangers.
Kennedy served 16 years as a congressman from Rhode Island, during which he made mental health treatment and insurance coverage a legislative priority. He revealed he had struggled with depression and alcoholism, as well as addiction to cocaine and prescription painkillers.
In 2006, Kennedy crashed his Ford Mustang into a security barrier on Capitol Hill. He agreed to a plea deal on a charge of driving under the influence of prescription drugs and received a year's probation.
Low-level marijuana offenders should pay a fine, not go to prison, Kennedy said, but it's a bad idea to make pot more accessible: More people will experiment, including young people whose still-developing brains seem to be most susceptible to addiction. He said he fears the creation of a huge marijuana industry that might target teens the way the tobacco industry did.
Voters in Washington and Colorado handily passed measures on last November's ballot to legalize the possession of up to an ounce of marijuana for adults over 21 under state law, and to create a system of state-licensed marijuana growers, processors and retail stores. The measures could bring the states tens or hundreds of millions of dollars per year in new tax revenue, analysts have said.
Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and the Justice Department has not said whether it will sue to try to block the state-licensing schemes from taking effect.
Supporters of Washington's Initiative 502 raised more than $6 million. The measure was sponsored or endorsed by former top federal law enforcement officers in the state, as well as some former public health officials and a University of Washington addiction specialist.
Alison Holcomb, the drug policy director of the state's American Civil Liberties Union chapter and I-502's campaign manager, said she's as concerned as anyone else about the public-health ramifications of legal marijuana, and that's why the initiative requires new surveys of drug use among teens and earmarks money for substance abuse prevention and treatment.
And, she said, Kennedy and Sabet offer no suggestions for dealing with the dangerous black market that supplies the nation's vigorous appetite for pot.
Frum said that given the social ills caused by alcohol and tobacco use, no one should be arguing for legal marijuana.
"There are not a lot of voices saying you should smoke more tobacco, it's a cure for what ails you," Frum said. "There aren't people saying we should raise the DUI limit from 0.08 to 0.12. People who use alcohol and tobacco understand they're doing something risky. That's not the message about marijuana, and that's an unfortunate situation.
"What we should all want is to see fewer young people with criminal records and fewer young people using drugs."
I think any substance that is taken that removes one's individual consciousness is not good for anyone. Which responsible parent would want their kids half conscious out there. It is a recipe for bad behaviour or abuse.
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Anyone wanting this on the young have an agenda on the exploitation of the young through trial and addiction.
This  kennedy dope needs to have a come to Jesus moment with a hypnotist and have a a talk with his dead father and ask him if it was pot  or Alcohol that caused the death of that poor woman in the car accident he did not report and tried to cover it up ( so the story goes). Â
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How about instead of spending money to support a missive of drug interdiction and the criminalization of addicts and even pushers, you look to solve the problem at its source that is the users themselves. Itâs the mentaility that, âIf we stop the drugs, there wonât be any for the usersâ and that âeventually without drugs, drug addiction will be over.â
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First if there is a demand, SOMEONE will find a way to supply it. And if there is a supply, there will be dealers. You look to mitigate the system, you canât kill it. Mitigation comes at the user end, not the supply end.
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Many countries that have more lenient drug laws also have lower drug use (by population) and less significant drug associated secondary crimes (like theft, accidental death, homicide, prostitution, and vandalism). This is not because of the laws necessarily, but that there is a stigma against drug use and there is no 'drug culture". The glamorizing of using, selling and associating with people who use and sell.
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But those STILL aren't the reasons why.
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It's because they have substantially better treatment and drug addition help and drug addiction awareness.
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Places like the Netherlands, Germany, just about anywhere in Europe have substantially lower drug crime and related incidents despite the fact that share land routes (that are just as open as ours if not more) with some of the largest drug producing countries in the world. This is because they treat their drug addicts. And retreat, and retreat them. They treat before incarceration (not the other way around) and will repeatedly treat people even if treatment has previously failed (which is good because anyone who knows anything about drugs knows people fail many times before success).
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So let's not waste money fighting the drug dealers, and instead throw it at the treatment places to remove drug users.
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Nothing kills the system like lack of demand.
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replace the word marijuana with the word alcohol, then re read this article...
thats how silly this story will appear in 80 years from now.
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Just let people be free, how hard is that?!
@James Gnau Our country need more people like you.
The Shafer Commission had it right. Over 40 years later and we are moving, albeit slowly in the correct direction.
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"The criminal law is too harsh a tool to apply to personal possession even in the effort to discourage use. It implies an overwhelming indictment of the behavior which we believe is not appropriate. The actual and potential harm of use of the drug is not great enough to justify intrusion by the criminal law into private behavior, a step which our society takes only 'with the greatest reluctance."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Commission_on_Marihuana_and_Drug_Abuse
Let's continue flushing billions down the toilet
waging the unwinnable "war on drugs".
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Thanks Project SAM for seeking to perpetuate sheer government madness
at the taxpayer's expense..
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Sounds more like Project STIGMA to me.
The use of coffee is completely out of control. We have very high potency coffee available on practically every street corner. It's habit forming and it's at least 10 times stronger than it was in the 70's. In the morning coffee addicts can barely even get out of bed without a hot cup of coffee waiting for them. This high potency coffee has never been tested and the long term effects are not known. People spend a lot of money getting their daily dose and it leads to increased cigarette smoking. We should be concerned about the public health ramifications of drinking coffee. Given the social ills caused by alcohol and tobacco use, no one should be arguing for the drinking of coffee. Coffee drinkers should pay a fine.
 @special effects Starbucks is that drug's local pusher.
 @special effects Coffee makes me have panic attacks. Pot stops them.Â
They want to be reasonable now, after they lost with the hardline stance for 40+ years.
Who are the real dopes?
What a bunch of dopes!
Let's get rid of money, too. I hear it's evil. I hear there's some gamblers, somewhere, who lack the character to control themselves around it.
And then there's all those rapists...
Here is the deal. Almost 10 years ago my husband age 52 and a decorated Vietnam Vet died at OSHU. He had liver failure brought about by exposure to agent orange. He was denied a liver transplant because he tested positive for THC even though he had a Washington State Medical Marajuana Card. The rub is that had he been able to tolerate the perscription of Oxy Contin aka Hillbilly Heroin he would have qualified and would possibly be alive today. Unfortunately his liver could not tolerate that poision one pill would make him violently ill and leave him bedridden for days. He finally found relief in pot. Prior to his last stay in the hospital he was able to live a pretty normal life go fishing with our son, and enjoy his last days before being handed a death sentence by the organ transplant committee for the crime of having permission slip to smoke pot for his condition which is not considered a "real" perscription. He was required to wait 2 months after he tested clean he didn't last a month.
Patrick Kennedy, Kevin Sabet and David Frum take your uniformed foolishness away from my State where I promise to fight tooth and nail to make sure everybody knows just what horrible pain and suffering this stupid prohibition causes and how very cruel your snotty attitude really is. The three of you make me sick.
We in Washington have always been ahead of the curve in getting rid of stupid federal laws this is no exception. Good riddance to bad laws that have killed more people that legalization ever will.
 @pswaterspirit What a Sorry case or our Government taking our rights away! We are headed down a narrow road.  All should be aware of the coming Gun take away! See Alex Jones and others @ Infowars.com or Drudgereports.com
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 @pswaterspirit It has been 1 year 7 days and about 7 minutes since I took my last Morphine after 9 years of the crap. The Opiates nearly shut my body down completely. My Doctor helped me switch to medical Mj and one year later I have way more mobility, can controle my pain level much better, have lost over 120lbs and I have my Life Back. They are finding that it has so many health benefits including fighting cancer that of course Big Pharma wants it to stay illegal, the can not make billions when everyone can grow thier own medicine that actually works instead of just treats.
@pswaterspirit You are amazing! Your story is truly heart wrenching and I'm so glad you shared. I feel it must be heard. We all need to fight like you. It's the only thing that keeps my pain under control and I hope someday the "professionals" out there realize that they are violating their Hippocratic Oath.Â
I solemnly pledge myself to consecrate my life to the service of humanity; I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude which is their due;I will practice my profession with conscience and dignity; The health of my patient will be my first consideration; I will respect the secrets which are confided in me; I will maintain by all the means in my power, the honour and the noble traditions of the medical profession; My colleagues will be my brothers and sisters; I will not permit considerations of religion, nationality, race, gender, politics, socioeconomic standing, or sexual orientation to intervene between my duty and my patient; I will maintain the utmost respect for human life; even under threat, I will not use my medical knowledge contrary to the laws of humanity; I make these promises solemnly, freely and upon my honour.
 @pswaterspirit I have always advocated and voted for your husband's right to use THC over oxycontin or the pharmas that the medical industry gives people. The VA my grandfather Hepatitis C and they're still doing it to veterans, so... yay universal health care.
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These guys are fine if your husband suffers but he's a "doper" and a "stoner" if he uses the freedom he earned to ingest a plant rather a chemical.
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Why is this in the Politics section and not in Life and Style?Â
bunch a prudes
Pot addiction hurts those who are addicted and those around them...
 @sortbait Everyone needs to go easy on poor Sort. Without this type of idiocy in a single comment, there wouldn't be multiple replies informing the other readers of the truth. So for every single troll, there are multiple nuggest of the truth. He's just fixing the world through idiocy.
@sortbait No matter how many times you read it and who is telling you...there is no such thing as "pot addiction".
 @sortbait Why I bother repeating this is beyond me. Some people just do not have the intelligence to understand facts and science. Marijuana is NOT Physically addictive PERIOD! If you become addicted to Mj you are Pyschologically Addicted and it is not the Mj, someone with that weak of a mind could be addicted to Parsely, get a clue. By the way the true Gateway Drug is Alcohol!
 @sortbait It hurts me to read your mind numbing posts.Â
 @sortbait So does cigarette addiction, alcohol addiction, gambling addiction and bad television. What's your point?
Your addiction to stupidity hurts you and those around you.
Frum = refuse.
...in other words, a former Washington insider/policy maker is feeling depressed that he no longer has the power to determine what people can and cannot do. So, he gets together a few more who are in the same boat, forms a PAC for a divisive topic, hits up former financial backers for cash, and BAM! He's back in the political mix.Â
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Heaven forbid that people actually think for themselves and create laws and legislation by self determination!
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Thank heaven for political activists. We common rabble need someone from DC to tell us what's good and bad.Â
Project SAM is undemocratic. Laws and legislation by self determination requires not just the initial enactment but the continued act of preservation, in this case the evidence is on the side of the public opinion, thankfully. This I feel will be the biggest thorn in the side of any anti-cannabis lobbyists and our federal government.  There are people that don't care for cannabis that are willing to throw in with cannabis consumers for the sake of preserving the democratic process that was used to enact this law. Â
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I too have many thanks to the political activists, I try and do my part - as any citizen should living in this republic to safeguard their democracy.
"...we're losing the public health battle" and policy is being made by legalization advocates who might be misinformed about marijuana's dangers."
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Yeah, well if it'll steer them away from alcohol and tobacco, I'm all for it.
The problem now is the alcohol and tobacco industries are concerned that this would cut into their profits. Their pockets are deep and influence heavy in DC, expect to see more anecdotal evidence and lies coming from that side on the topic of legalizing cannabis.
 @OliverNicholas Indeed, big pharma and the alcohol and tobacco industries will fight this to the bitter end. Same with the for profit prison industry, big cotton and any right-winger that wants an easy bogeyman.
 @Playanekes  @browntown  @OliverNicholas they will when the feds give 'em the o.k.
 @browntown  @OliverNicholas I wonder why they don't just grow weed.
Gee, a Kennedy that suffered from addiction....no surprise there at all! That family is the biggest group of lushes this side of Cape Cod.
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Why don't they try to ban alcohol since that seems to be the source of their issues?
The source of their issues is genetic.
As long as laws can be broken of which is indirectly presumed in the definition of a law we'll continue to have people try and restrict by means of the law on any given issue, some warranted - some not. Laws do not guarantee prevention of crime they allow only for a reactive stance against the "crime", prohibition doesn't prevent crime it incites it, ignorance doesn't prevent crime it allows for it.
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Itâs not the governments job to educate us on issues, itâs our job as the public to educate ourselves and restrict government to only true vices like murder, rape, fraud, unwarranted physical violence, etc. - Itâs called being a part of democracy; of which you must involve yourself and continue to guard or risk losing. Society will deem what is acceptable through means of social networks and community / public meetings - then use our government as is intended to push society's agenda and not the other way about.
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If people are so proud to be an American then itâs about time they prove it by means of fiercely guarding democracy and chastising politicians and lobbyists that defile our democratic process in this once great republic of ours.Â
Leave it alone, the people have spoken!!! Â There are much more important issues at stake in our country today. Â Funny a Kennedy talking about prohibition, that's where all that Kennedy money came from.
How special, a Kennedy wants to chime in on the behaviour of others. Maybe we can have Trump discuss corporate ethics, too, with a panel from Enron. Hmmm.. "Kennedy is the chairman, and other board members include Sabet and David Frum, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush." Yeah, the "Just say no" thing worked wonders, right? I wonder if he ever asked Bush to go into detail over his DUI or cocaine use. This is akin to the child-molester priest telling others not to covet thy neighbor's wife.
 @JGalt No the Wives are off limits but your pre-pubecent boys on the other hand are fair game for the Priests.