Wash. bill gives immigrants with deferrals college aid

SEATTLE (AP) - A bill introduced in the state Legislature on Tuesday would allow young immigrants who have no legal status in the country to apply for state financial aid for college.
The measure aims to dovetail with the Obama administration's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which provides young immigrants who arrived in the United States as children a legal way to live in the country on renewable two-year stays, but it would also make students who don't apply for that program eligible.
To be eligible for the federal program, immigrants must prove they arrived in the U.S. before they turned 16, must be 30 or younger, must have been living in the country at least five years, and must be in school, have graduated or served in the military. They cannot have been convicted of certain crimes or otherwise pose a safety threat.
People who qualify for the deferred removal program can't apply for federal college financial aid.
Senate Minority Leader Sen. Ed Murray's bill, dubbed the Washington Dream Act, would make these immigrants eligible for the State Need Grant. They already qualify for in-state tuition.
The measure's highest hurdle is getting the approval of Senate leader Rodney Tom and his Republican colleagues. A spokesman for the Senate coalition couldn't immediately say what leadership thought of the bill.
In 2003, Tom was one of several Republicans in the House of Representatives who voted to make students who entered the country illegally eligible for in-state tuition.
Murray, a Democrat from Seattle, said he doesn't have any Republican co-sponsors for the bill but is optimistic that some will eventually sign on to the idea. He has already proposed a capital gains tax that would provide a source of revenue for the state's education system, and he said one of the areas that needs to be funded is the State Need Grant.
"The resources exist to fund the state need grant," Murray said.
Proponents say the average number of college students in Washington each year who can't provide proof of legal residency is about 550. They estimate that number would grow by about 20 or 30 percent if the financial aid measure is approved. Using those numbers, they estimate costs in the next biennium to be between $3.3 million and $3.5 million.
Ricardo Sanchez of the Latino/a Educational Achievement Project said the students who would be eligible for financial aid are the children of immigrants who have helped Washington's economy, such as farm workers in the multi-billion agricultural sector. He said these families have contributed their share of taxes to the state's coffers.
Overall, higher education is one of the many sectors lawmakers are working to fund in the next budget.
The state is already predicting a $900 million deficit for the next biennium, and a Supreme Court ruling concerning money for the state's K-12 education system will force the Legislature to find an estimated $1 billion to invest in public schools during this session.
Recently, Washington's public university presidents offered to compromise with the Legislature over money, saying they will agree to freeze tuition for the next two years if the state infuses $225 million into their budgets.
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Associated Press writer Mike Baker in Olympia, Wash., contributed to this report.
Apparently, Washington thinks it is ok to pander to and give college aid to illegal immigrants, who by the way are criminals, while American citizens who could actually use college aid get the cold shoulder from the state. Again, another state that has their priorities confused.
I wish we had a party that when elected into office would chose to follow our laws and Constitution as its sad as to what The United States is becoming. We have a set a laws for legal citizens and its carte blanche for illegals. Well, there IS a way you to get the very same tuition that the illegals are getting by using the law. Here is a bit of help for all those seeking collage aid and for collage coeds to get the SAME freebies that are given to the illegalâs.... use the federal statute below.
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8 U.S.C. § 1623 : US Code - Section 1623: Limitation on eligibility for preferential treatment of aliens not lawfully present on basis of residence for higher education benefits :
(a) In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, an alien who is not -----
lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the
basis of residence within a State (or a political subdivision) for
any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of
the United States is eligible for such a benefit (in no less an
amount, duration, and scope) without regard to whether the citizen
or national is such a resident.
(b) Effective date
This section shall apply to benefits provided on or after July 1,
1998.
Get that people? " unless a "citizen" or" national" of the United States is eligible for such a benefit â No mention of illegal .  So START demanding that YOU be given the same special treatment that our elected officials are giving to illegals!
If they balk at the head office, get yourself a lawyer.
Pssst.. to our media/K2 Those who cross our borders illegally are NOT immigrants, they are invaders. Those who come to the United States legally per our laws are the TRUE immigrants.Â
If we reward a group that is currently breaking active laws, can we as law abiding citizens chose to ignore laws as our own government is doing?
Are you #%Â¥~#* kidding me. No legal status! In other word criminalaliens. Obummer you make me sick!
Sure. Why shouldn't we pay for them. The working taxpayers are paying for everything else. Because ya know, everyone should be taken care of and provided for. Pathetic !
Just when you think politicians have exhausted all stupid idea's, they pop up with another one! Never knew the State of Washington had so much left over money. Can I get some back? Oops, silly me, I'm a citizen.
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"Young immigrants"???
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They are ILLEGAL ALIENS! What a biased article.
 @Bill Nelson KATU is just showing their left leaning reporting.
Please feel free to ignore all laws now.Â
they just want a better life (at your expense)
Just an observation here.
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Anyone else notice that news stories involving illegals, amnesty for border jumping criminals, educational benefits, medical care, crimes such as murder, rape, drugs  etc. that they are involved in only get a brief mention on K2.Â
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Could it be that K2 supports illegals and their destruction of our way of life? We rely on the media to provide the news, not hide it from us.
 @FreerideNOT KATU sure does.
This is nothing but total BS. The money I had to save and the hoops we had to jump through to put my kids through college. I guess we should have denounced citizen ship, moved to another country and come back illegally!
This kind of crap makes my blood boil.
 @randomdude As it does mine, I will not even mention this to my wife, a LEGAL immigrant.
I've learned not to discuss these issue with her, It does not turn out pleasant!
send them to MANDATORY armed service for 5 years,,, then they can apply
@iamright555Â Â But ONLY after they learn to speak proper English and can memorize the Pledge of Allegience.
@wondering We can't even get 3rd generation American's to speak proper English.
I think I'll become an Ex-Pat and migrate back illegally so I can reap all the free benefits. I'm tired of being a good doobie, following all the rules, and getting screwed.
Look for a big increase in border jumpers now that mexican parents realize if they can illegally get to WA and get a job their children can get a free college education. Just one more incentive to get more illegals to come into the country. In my opinion, if you can't speak english, you don't met the minimum requirement to go to a US public school. Especially in Oregon, if you don't own property, your children get publicly funded schooling, paid for by property owners. But profits will go way up for apple growers.
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@dkgiovenco -----extra likes. Your BS. ran off the page.
This country is having serious financial issues and yet they want to treat illegals better than our own legal citizens.
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If I commit a crime can I get a deferral and a BIG reward. The only reward illegals should get is a free ride to their home countries.
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ANYONE in the US illegally regardless of how or when they got here should be rounded up and deported.
Great, so illegals already have most of the lower paying jobs, now they can go to college and start taking away middle class jobs. We already give illegal immigrants drivers licenses, food stamps, health care, tax free income, jobs, free k-12 schooling and free police and public safety. All tax free. Lets give them some more free incentives to illegally enter the country. Heck, you might as well just close down Customs and Immigration, they're just wasting our money. The US government is not going to stop until they have completely trashed this country. Meanwhile, law-abiding US citizens will foot the bill for this fiasco.
http://www.wthr.com/story/17798210/tax-loophole-costs-billions
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This is all I have to say about this.
http://www.wthr.com/story/17798210/tax-loophole-costs-billions
Hey, what about the Legal students, how about aid for them? I sure hope my Grandkids that are US citizens, can get free aid when they go to college......
 @lizz Your grand kids are SCREWED, being a citizen is a crime these days.
@lizz My brother in-law in sending his two kids to college now. He's tried to do it right his whole life. You know, pay taxes, not depend on the gubmint for any assistance but because he's done it like that he has to pay most of the bill. His wife used to make really good money but it makes more sense for them to have her on part time (10 hours a week). If she worked full time they would have to pay much more for their kids to attend college. Doesn't pay to work anymore, at least the 47% figured that out already. I must be a slow learner, Â I guess I'm just a hard case.
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@TheUglyTruth Illegal immagrants get thrown in jail in Mexico.
 @oodathunked Or shot.
This so much BS.  What is wrong  with the elected officials.  We cannot  even take care of our own!
There are colleges in Mexico. Â I do not object to footing the bill to send them to Mexico so they may attend school in their country.
I hope everyone  remembers who these lawmakers are at election time.
Why do we continue to pander to these people? Is it because by helping the illegals we might gain a few votes from the ones that actually came here legally? Why do they continue to ignore the will of the people and go ahead with their own agenda? Somethings gotta change before this country goes the rest of the way down the toilet!
Money to burn (taxpayer money) and fools(politicians on the take) Â to give them more.
Screw them there illegal why take those that are legal and law abiding citizens and give it som one breaking the law..
Illegals are not that huge of a problem, relatively speaking. Only 3% of our population is made up of illegal immigrants. I guarantee that the % of those are not going to college. Illegal immigration, abortion, gun rights, gay marriage, & cannabis are all distractions to hide what is really going on.
 @Unthought Known But that is 3% that disproportionately uses public resources at a greater rate and pays almost nothing in taxes [relatively speaking] -- especially here in OR.
Boil it down to a basic point of reference: if an illegal alien 'works' [illegal in itself, but let's blow past that for now..] and earns 25k/yr, there is no way they pay enough in taxes to cover the cost of educating just one of their offspring (typical public K-12 education costs run about 7k-10k / yr in the area). Â So, that 3% is putting a big turd in the pocket of other law-abiding and hard working citizens and legal residents.
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True, but another big problem is the cost of education. It shouldn't cost that much. We spend more than almost all other countries in education, but our ROI is awful.
 @ShallowEnder I just looked. The average is $3500 to $6000 per year. Much less than public schools spend per student for a much higher quality education.
 @Unthought Known None of those things has anything to do with education and everything to do with public employee unions.
The same exists in every other government department. It is not a cost of education, it is a cost of unions and entitled public employees.
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And all of those things you mentioned are part of the Education system.
 @Unthought Known  @ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsPhredE We don't spend more on education, we spend more on union employees, PERS contributions, health insurance, vacations, sick leave, PTO and union dues. Not on education.
 @Billy Batts  @Unthought  @ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsPhredE Spoken by a man who has never looked at the cost of private schools.
@Unthought Known @ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsPhredE Education is expensive because the goverment pays for it. If the goverment didn't pay for it then the common working man could afford to send their kids to a good school.
 @ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsPhredE  @Unthought Known If anyone works for $25k, they aren't earning enough to cover educating one child. Are all US citizens making that kind of money doling out "big turds"?
 @Max Quinn  @Unthought Known True. But those are Americans and they, for the most part, have done nothing wrong -- to me -- that is a HUGE difference.
All I can do is laugh. The PNW tends to vote extremely left year after year. Why are you people shocked?  One day they will pass laws that state that you must accomodate one illegal family in your house and take care of them. Some people will wake up at that point but it will be too late.  The self loathing liberal white guilt crowd will just be seething with smugness and joy and won't mind at all. At that point I will be taking my dogs poo and start packing it under the door handles of all of their Subaru's and Prius's. Just saying.
 @Mr. Carbon Footprint A more accurate statement is "the Portland area & the Seattle area vote extremely left every year. Unfortunately, the rest of the population in the NW is being taken for a ride by these people.
So we're assisting ILLEGAL immigrants, instead of immigrants with no legal standings. Why cover up the truth? Break the law and get rewarded, as long as you're not an American citizen. Steal someone's social security number and not have to worry about the consequence, instead let the original SS number own suffer. God bless this country.
I propose a general strike. Everyone take a few days off, or better yet just quit working altogether, and go on public assistance.
 Work for cash only, and don't report any income. Can't tax what isn't there.
Use the system until it breaks.... It's coming to that point if not there already.
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@Razor1  I'm ready to do that for my daughter. She cannot work due to long term injuries so I have insisted she go to school (she wanted to anyhow). She is old enough that she could get welfare, but as a parent, I feel it is my obligation to help her how I can, so she has a roof over her head and all her basic needs met. I pay over $700/month for medical insurance and most of her college expenses. I guess I should jump on the democrack entitlement bandwagon and have her apply for welfate. Oh wait, that goes against all I believe in - family should take care of family.
 @wondering I applaud you for your ethics! I really would never stoop so low as to ask for the public to support me, or my family.... no matter what. My Wife and I have managed to put our 3 children through college by working 2 sometimes 3 jobs... the kids worked also. Yes we got loans, and my youngest is still paying on hers, but she wouldn't think of not paying them back.
 I mentioned the strike only to get people thinking about what would happen if the producers were to suddenly stop feeding the coffers. All of the deadbeats would be left with no teat to suck on, and would soon die off. Yes a lot of people would perish, but that is what happens in nature. You may say humans are too advanced to let something like this happen, but look at the rest of the world, and tell me how advanced we are. We may be humans, but we still have to play by natures rules.
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