Close call at PDX?

Is this a close-call at PDX? About 35 seconds before a jet airliner lands a small aircraft in the landing flight path guns it's engine to what appears to me to be a landing called off by the air traffic controllers. There is no way a small plane could have landed and the runway cleared before the airliner landed. With the north runway closed for construction is air traffic safe at PDX?

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A Reader says ... on Sunday, Aug 23 at 8:10 PM

Small plane was likely told to abort and go around. Commercial flights/jets have right of way since the small plane can use alternate smaller runways at like Troutdale and Pearson. Small plane lands at 40 mph, jet at 140 mph.

mhcd says ... on Monday, Aug 24 at 5:46 AM

I want my 1:56 back. This wasn't close.

Crash says ... on Monday, Aug 24 at 6:19 AM

That was not even close to close. Commercial flights also do not have right of way. The controller most likely saw that there would not be time for the small plane to land before the prior had cleared the runway so they asked him to do a go around.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ says ... on Monday, Aug 24 at 2:43 PM

Oh for crying out loud that wasn't even close! What an over active idiot you are! I bet you are sue happy too aren't you. Always looking for a way to get the other guy! This WAS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO A CRASH! Oh my GOSH grow up!

idiots says ... on Monday, Aug 24 at 3:28 PM

first off it's more than 35 seconds.... secondly how do you know the controller called off the smaller planes landing.... maybe the pilot of the small plane did - could have been windy or any assortment of problems.

A Reader get some info says ... on Monday, Aug 24 at 3:32 PM

40mph for landing in small planes - really? is that ground speed or air speed? most small planes land a bit faster than 40 KNOTS of indicated airspeed. You might want to let all the small planes taking off the crosswind runway at PDX know about TTD

pmdoughty says ... on Monday, Aug 24 at 7:29 PM

I just video taped what I saw, If you time from where the small plane was to when the airliner approximately reached the same location it is about 35 seconds. I never mentioned the word crash and I have never sued anyone.

MoJangles says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 9:45 AM

... sequenced in a logical order, preventing these said close calls. 3) If the aircraft were VFR, they would most likely not be able to even enter PDX with the single runway. I've tried to VFR and if you aren't sequenced, they don't want you. Finally

MoJangles says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 9:43 AM

Hi, here are a few facts to consider regarding the following video. 1) Most likely our friend in the small airplane is executing a practice missed approach, in which case he is under an IFR flight plan. 2) That being said, IFR flight plans are...

MoJangles says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 9:47 AM

Finally, the rate that the traffic is flowing is actually quite slow. I've landed in tighter patterns than that! In addition, there is no "right of way" rule in IFR, only controller discretion. The above may look like anarchy, but it's very orderly.

A Reader says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 11:06 AM

Scratch or disregard my comments on Aug. 23 at 9:10 pm.

margu43542 says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 12:42 PM

Nah, not really close enough to be a real problem.

Mo Jangles.... says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 3:54 PM

1)isn't it if there are two aircraft on final the lower one has the right of way? 2)the small plane may not necessarily have been on an IFR plan but recieving "radar services" or "separation" 3) PDX still has two rwy's 3 / 21 and 10R / 28L

Dear Mojangles says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 3:59 PM

most often the controllers will allow small planes to shoot the approach to rwy 21 and perform a missed app or stay north of the river..... the controllers prob. not allow practice appch to the main rwy with commerc. 737 inbnd.

MoJangles says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 9:58 PM

The point here is that the odds are that if the Cessna weren't on an IFR flight plan, approach would not even let them land. This video proves that the airport was busy. Real life quote from VFR req: "Cessna N62348, unable to sequence due to volume.

MoJangles says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 10:00 PM

In this large of an airport and in this sort of traffic, the right of way wouldn't necessarily apply as it does at a non-towered airport. The controller will decide who lands first, but what may have happened is that the Cessna was going too slow.

MoJangles says ... on Tuesday, Aug 25 at 10:04 PM

To DearMyself: very true, but if a controller was not going to allow a practice approach, they would have not allowed it long before the plane even entered final. Let me check my approach plates and see if a missed app for pdx agrees with the video.

BJDorr says ... on Wednesday, Aug 26 at 9:01 AM

This incident was not even considered a close call. Also, all the reasons discussed here are pure speculation, unless we hear from the pilot of the small aircraft or hear the air traffic communications.

MoJangles says ... on Wednesday, Aug 26 at 9:13 AM

It's true, and talking with another pilot reminded me that there are about a million possibilities (i.e. low approach, etc) that could have been going on. I'm just sticking with the fact that this wasn't a close call.

Fire Pilot says ... on Wednesday, Aug 26 at 7:34 PM

You folks have way too much time on your hands. This was nothing. Nothing at all

MoJangles says ... on Wednesday, Aug 26 at 8:25 PM

Well, when we can't fly, what else is there to do?

Anonymous says ... on Thursday, Aug 27 at 12:29 PM

you're kidding me, that is not close. go back east or socal if you want close

TBA says ... on Friday, Aug 28 at 10:01 AM

With the runway closed why don't the smaller planes / private jets come to a less crowded airport located slightly west of PDX.. Come to Hillsboro Airport (HIO)!!

Boeing727 says ... on Saturday, Sep 19 at 5:54 PM

No Doughty, the ATC would have given permission for the small craft to cross the finals....the SWA 737 would have been long gone...climbing out right away if anything didn't look good. From what you've filmed...ATC gave the small craft clearance.

Turnpike says ... on Monday, Sep 21 at 9:07 PM

Is all the name calling necessary?!? How about some civility folks! A commodity in very short supply these days. How about IF YOU DON'T GOT NOTHIN NICE TO SAY, DON'T SAY NOTHIN AT ALL! Thumper's mom was wise. Some of you could learn from her!

JoAnn Maynard says ... on Tuesday, Jan 27 at 10:06 PM

I think it happened again tonight. My husband was coming from Vegas and his plane was about to touch down. Then went around . He said that they were only 100 feet off the ground when they put on the power and went up again. Close call again?

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